3 year old teaches again & ……….

Last night after several days of nothing but pure negativity from both sides of the great debate, a 3 year old opened my eyes yet again. 

I went to visit Amberlee for the evening.  Normally, I’m the fun gramma that plays board games, plays hide n seek, paints, anything that makes her giggle. I’m big on the giggle.  But last night, I just sat there with kinda a blank stare.  Blank stare because of the behavior I witnessed and ultimately participated in.  Not over my choice.  My choice is made.  But the behavior was so appalling out of adults that I’m not even sure what the message was.  Amberlee asked me…”what’s wrong mamma Dee?”.  Without really thinking, I just said, “someone was mean.”.  She looked at me with the biggest brownest eyes that she has ever sparkled at me and said, “I not mean mamaw Dee!”.  Smack, right in the face….a smile turned grin…..no ‘lil punkin head….your not mean…..Let’s go play Whack a Mole  (no jab intended–she has that game and that’s what we played–LOL).  We had a great evening. 

But, wake up this morning and still wonder how on earth we can get to this point.  How does an issue get to the point, where both sides will argue it to the point of being extremist.  I mean, in my world, I see injustices all the time.  Sometimes because of my profession, which others would not be privy too, but just in the headlines everyday.  Somethings that I could see that much passion in being an activist for:

1)  A man in California that brutally murders 2 innocent people and then is acquitted.  Talking about sitting there with a smug look.  The man BRUTALLY MURDERED 2 innocent people and walks away free.  He does lose the civil case (thank goodness the Browns & The Goldmans did get some validation for the brutal murder of their family members). But, the fact remains that he walked free.  Yes, I believe that OJ did it.  Without a doubt.

2)  Innocent children in a compound in Arizona, being forced to pro-create to build some type of “cultish” empire.  And the way our media reports it, you really aren’t sure how to fall off the fence.  Child abuse is child abuse, but done under the veil of “religion”, it kinda murkies it up in your mind.  Not because you believe this “cult” is right, but because your not sure where the line is that religion is sincerely based and a right or when it crosses to abuse.  Do I think these children should be returned to the compound?  No.  Do I think that they can be “saved” to turn into productive well adjusted adults?  I’m not sure.

3)  A President that lies under oath, making a mockery of the Judicial system that is a part of the government that he has sworn under oath to give his service too.  It doesn’t matter if you are offended by his extra-marital affairs (aka morals), but he LIED under oath.  I’ve said before that some people don’t get any credit for telling the truth under oath….but this is a man who has taken an oath (like it matters to him), made a wedding vow (we see how he keeps his vows) and then lied under oath (like it matters to him). 

So when you consider big ticket items like these.  The KK debate pales in comparison.  yet the passion for the KK debate is absolutely insane. 

 

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I was asked if I trusted KIMMERS……after the pack of wolves that just attacked me (no, no ducks in that pack), yes, I do trust KIMMERS, if it is misplaced trust, it will be revealed to me soon enough.  If its a choice between trusting KIMMERS and that pack.  By all means, it’s KIMMERS.   But yes, I trust KIMMERS.  Period end.

Let’s see…….I’m going to try to keep this simple……I just want to prove some points.

1) VWV–she started out with well wishes and the one line zinger, I actually think her’s was the–you’ll be back because you know here is the “TRUTH”.  In fact, I never left, I was reading their posts, not for the TRUTH, but because I have never ever seen that kind of behavior out of adults.  So I blog something about it.  Well, VWV apparently was in my space too, because she commented later…told you guys she’d be here (or something to that affect).  Knowing that they take great pride in making people (or thinking they made people) run and hide…I stepped out and posted.  And the WELCOME WAGON rolled up…(I mean tried to roll over me).  Then next.  VWV, who actually started stirring the pot…Oh..I need to hit IGNORE…Oh…I’m bored.  Oh, really…Oh..someone get me a drink.  The irony of it is…I don’t even think she sees what she did.  I won’t give her credit for having put it together as to “her poking the dog, then crying when she gets bit.”. 

Then there’s wzilla- Very appropriately named.  Passive Agressive.  I don’t think she has any idea why she’s mad, but she’s mad at the world.  Appropriately named, because when angry, she will lash out at who-ever and whatever she chooses.  But if she’s trying to make a point.  It gets missed in the pure hate that she spouts. 

and Cleo–the rightfighter.  I am here as an ACTIVIST.  A voice for the people.  Sworn to office to serve and protect.  And Dee, if you must use more than one statement to state your case, you are not an effective communicator.  You’ve missed your opportunity.  I serve on boards.  You get once shot at making your case.  Well, Cleo…that’s not the case in a court of law.  You can direct questions, redirect questions etc.  And you yourself, came back and “restated” your case.  LMAO.  So the “one” statement applies to everyone but you.  NO…I mean the “one” statement rule applies to only “KK” folks.  If you are anti-KK, you can use 16 threads of a gazillion to tell the same thing over and over and over again.  Cleo…for the record…if someone is presenting something to a board…it is generally one side…looking for approval for a change of something.  Generally, but not always….someone wants a zoning law changed, so they submit their proposal for approval.  The board then decides on the proposal.  When you are “debating” something, there are two sides, that get equal consideration and time.  When one side states their case, the other side gets the opportunity for a rebuttal.  That’s why when you are presenting a proposal to a board, you have one shot at the apple.  When you are presenting a case before a jury (or debating something), there are multiple opportunities to respond.

There are now 3 folks out there that wanted to having meaningful dialog.  One..She stated her case in the thread.  I stated my response.  Both were written from our own perspectives, which differ.  I respect that we have differing prospectives.  I did not feel the need to “ridicule” her and she did not “ridicule” me.  (Now there’s some adult conversation).  Another, we have had several exchanges of communication, I believe that both of us have mis-interpreted each other at least once.  But, as adults, we were able to agree to disagree and move on.  Yet a 3rd took me up on the offer to email me with questions……(I was trying to answer questions on the thread, but by the time that I posted one, 20 more came up–then I was accused of not answering questions, that coupled with the “pack” mentality- I offered to respond to individual emails.  I was then accused of wanting to not talk to a group, but one on one so I could change my story.  I responded that I have not said anything in private that I wouldn’t say in public–and let’s get real, I know that anything I write is subject to cut, paste and edit–so that really squashes that arguement).  In any event, a 3rd person emailed me with questions.  I responded.  Again, I think we can agree to disagree on our perspectives of the KK program, but my purpose of going to that thread was never to “win” folks back to KK, it was because “they” made me a target and I am not the kind to hide. 

Someone wrote….yeah, come onto our “turf” and then cry “FOWL”…(I would’ve used “foul”, but whatever).  Well that’s the pack like…street gang like mentality that I’m talking about.  The kill or be killed. 

Let’s face it….there are multiple areas in which great debates could take place.  Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, God or no-God, Pro-Life or Pro-Choice,  and whatever side of the coin you fall on, you are a person.  I am a person.  You have people who love and care about you.  I have people who love and care about me. The people who love and care about me could care less if I support Obama, Clinton or McCain, the people who care about me could care less if I do low carb or not.  The people who care about me could care less if I am pro-KK or anti-KK.  What they care about is me?

So, I asked myself this–and I will ask anyone reading this to answer it in your mind.  No need to literally respond…you will know the answer and the answer will reveal a lot about yourself to you.  Would you show your mother everything that you posted over the last few days on “the thread” ?  I’m embarrassed to say that I would not.  The answer is not that I didn’t believe in what I was standing up for….my mother will always support me standing up in my beliefs.  It was the delivery of my message…she would not support that.

So as for that exchange of dialog….today, I am burying it.  I’ve journaled it.  It’s over.  It’s history and may it RIP.  If anyone wants to have an adult conversation about why I choose KK….happy to do so.  If anyone just wants to ridicule and attack….they can take it to where-ever that behavior is accepted.   May the communications of the past few days RIP.

And yes, I would show my mother this blog.

Dee

P. S.  I never said anything about AmyB’s son Phillip in the least.  Never have, never would.  I have shared with her that I have my own issues with children,  Family has no place in the great KK debate.  But there is no doubt that attacks on family have occurred from both sides of the fence.